Aftab ali

Remove pigs from farms

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Being an international game, it is difficult to cater for all diversities of human kind.

The farm is a representation of the evolution from hunter/gatherer to a sedentary, agricultural existence. Dogs were domesticated in East Asia about 15,000 years ago. Goats and sheep were domesticated around 8000 BC in Asia. Swine or pigs were domesticated by 7000 BC in the Middle East and China. The earliest evidence of horse domestication dates to around 4000 BC.

The pig is just a representation of the domesticated livestock.

 

I don't like losing, however, . . . . [sad]

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1 hour ago, Aftab ali said:

Please remove pigs and add cows buffelos in farms. I m muslim and we dont like pigs.

It is true that it's really uncomfortable having pigs in our farms. But then sometimes we just have to face it.

I have proposed this idea to remove pigs from the Saracens tileset years ago. It was rejected by the community and well once again, we are kinda like suppressed. But then I think the best that could be done is just remove it from the Saracen tileset as this is practically historically incorrect since the Saracens do not have or at least are not supposed to have pigs in their farms. I understand having them in other tilesets, but as I said before, the best is to remove it from the Saracen tileset.

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37 minutes ago, AnotherRiddle said:

Being an international game, it is difficult to cater for all diversities of human kind.

The farm is a representation of the evolution from hunter/gatherer to a sedentary, agricultural existence. Dogs were domesticated in East Asia about 15,000 years ago. Goats and sheep were domesticated around 8000 BC in Asia. Swine or pigs were domesticated by 7000 BC in the Middle East and China. The earliest evidence of horse domestication dates to around 4000 BC.

The pig is just a representation of the domesticated livestock.

 

I don't like losing, however, . . . . [sad]

Not agreed with justification, one should respect others feeling same apply on developers of the game. Pigs must be removed, you may add horses acceptable for all.

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1. Pigs are Super-Smart and Remember Everything:

  • Scientists have determined that not only are pigs smart, they are smarter than dogs, some primates and 3-year old children. They are ranked as the fourth most intelligent creature on earth. Their level of cognitive ability allows pigs to play joystick-controlled video games, have abstract thought, use tools, recognize their own names, dream and follow commands.

2. Cleanliness is Next to Piggy-ness:

  • Pigs are very clean animals, so clean they can live indoors like dogs and cats as companion animals. Given the freedom to roam and sufficient space, pigs will not defecate near their sleeping or eating areas.

3. Everyone Should Eat Like a Pig:

  • Another misconception people have about pigs is that they eat anything and everything and a lot of it quickly. The truth is quite the opposite. Pigs in the wild spend a long time foraging for food. Their best sense is smell and pigs root for food with their snouts, happy to find a variety of goodies to eat. Given the freedom, pigs can be very picky eaters. They like to have their menu changed up rather than get the same meal day after day. Pigs eat slowly, nibbling and savoring their food. Pigs do not “pig out” or “eat like hogs” which are more inaccurate phrases people use.

4.  Pigs are Highly Social:

  • Pigs are extremely social animals. They form close bonds with people and other animals. They love contact and enjoy getting massages. Pigs show affection by grooming each other. They greet each other by rubbing noses (aww!) and enjoy hanging out together, sunbathing, playing and listening to music. Pigs love to sleep together in nests, cuddled up nose-to-nose. Who wouldn’t want to cuddle up to a pig?

5. Pigs are Playful:

  • Pigs love to play. Just like for human children, play is an important part of piglets’ social and cognitive development. Pigs like to chase each other, run around, play fight and wrestle and push balls around with their noses, all the while grunting and squeaking (which is piggy laughter). Pigs like toys and will use their imaginations to find a way to play with cardboard boxes, blankets, hay or whatever they find on their explorations. Like children, pigs tend to get bored with the same toy quickly so it’s important to keep them stimulated with different play objects.

6. Pigs Talk a Lot:

  • Pigs have a lot to say. They communicate constantly with each other and they don’t just say oink. Pigs have a vocabulary of over 20 distinct oinks, grunts, snorts, snarls and squeaks that have specific meanings. They convey their intentions, how they are feeling, warnings, greetings, and when it’s time for dinner. A lactating mother sow has a special call to let her piglets know it’s time to suckle and mother pigs stay in close contact with their piglets through grunts and squeals. Newborn piglets learn to recognize their mothers’ voices. Mother pigs also sing to their piglets while nursing.

7. Pigs are Good Mothers:

  • Pigs have a matriarchal family unit where piglets are cared for by the female relatives. Pigs are good mothers and develop strong bonds and love for her children, just like human mothers do. In the wild, the mother pig builds a nest for her unborn babies in a place she thinks will be safe for them. Sometimes she will walk over 6 miles to find a suitable place and will give birth to her babies in this secluded area. The mother pig will stay with her piglets for about two weeks before returning to the herd where she will wean her babies and teach them how to survive. Mother pigs get anxious when they are separated from their babies and mourn when they are taken away.

8. Pigs are Heroes:

  • Pigs may not wear capes but they can be superheroes when they need to be. There are many stories of pigs who have faced danger and jumped in to save the day. Pigs have been reported to have saved humans and other animals from drowning, fires, and intruders. One pig flagged down a passing car to help her human companion who was having a heart attack. There are also numerous stories of pigs who manage to escape from trucks bound for slaughterhouses, saving themselves and showing us that pigs, like everyone else, want to live.

9. Pigs Have Personalities and Feelings:

  • Just like humans, pigs have individual personalities with a wide range of traits and emotions. Some pigs are more playful than others, some are more serious, some are more daring and some are shyer. Some pigs seem to handle stress better than others who may suffer with depression. Pigs experience both positive and negative emotions and can feel happiness, sadness, grief and pain. Pigs are aware of their suffering and losses.
  • In fact, pigs are highly sensitive animals and can become quickly bored, anxious and depressed when confined to cramped spaces and mistreated. Pigs tend to be peaceful animals and only show aggression when they or their young are threatened. Pigs are curious, insightful, enthusiastic and optimistic animals who like to be entertained and have fun.

10. Pigs Show Compassion and Forgiveness:

  • Pigs are compassionate animals who show distress when they see another animal or human suffering. They are also forgiving as anyone who has ever visited a farm sanctuary knows. After being severely abused, rescued pigs learn to trust again and seem to not hold grudges. Even though they may have known horrible pain and loss at the hands of humans, they welcome the gentle touches of people who intend them no harm.

 

So, what about my feelings - or the pigs feelings? Do we also deserve respect?

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LOL :D. but right. I too would like to have pigs removed and having cows. Each civilizations should have some difference in their farms. 

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On 27 June 2017 at 10:01 AM, Aftab ali said:

Please remove pigs and add cows buffelos in farms. I m muslim and we dont like pigs.

I am a muslim too , our religion forbids us from eating pigs or any of it's derivatives , 

but it is not forbidden to have it in the game, watch it or watch it's picture in the nature or on screens.

so just don't push yourself too hard , there is nothing to worry about ! From a religious perspective it is ok! Our religion is easy & not that hard or restrict!

and finally it is just a game , what matter is the time you spend playing it and how to invest this time , I enjoy it because I am making new friends .

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On ‎27‎/‎6‎/‎2017 at 3:01 PM, Aftab ali said:

Please remove pigs and add cows buffelos in farms. I m muslim and we dont like pigs.

You can not remove pig in the farm because it the resources keeper as  it portrayed as "piggy bank".[tongue]..200.gif#2-grid1

 

 

 

Edited by strangerdanielv

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I think choosing pigs over many other farm animals was a poor decision as there seems to be some strong evidence that one of the civilizations didn't have pigs in their farms.  I'm honestly not sure if there is an animal that would have been used in the farms for all six civs, though I bet cows were.

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On ‎6‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 3:01 AM, Aftab ali said:

Please remove pigs and add cows buffelos in farms. I m muslim and we dont like pigs.

NO need to really have a religious debate over a graphic in the game.....your not actually eating or even touching the pic of the pig.......no harm, no foul.

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